The Drug Science Podcast Episode #5 - Psychedelics

On the 13th of November 2019, the Drug Science podcast celebrated the end of its first season with a special LIVE two-part recording on psychedelics.

Part 1 – Psychedelics in medicine

The world is entering a new phase of psychiatric treatments. Traditional pharmacology is currently unable to address the decline of mental health and wellbeing. Professor Nutt has assembled some of the best and brightest minds in psychedelic science and wellbeing to address the question- Do Psychedelics have a role to play in mental health and wellbeing?

Guests include:
Michelle Baker Jones an integrative psycho-therapeutic counsellor. She is a member of the Imperial Colleges Psychedelic Research Team exploring the therapeutic potential of psilocybin. She also offers individual integration sessions for people who are struggling to process psychedelic experiences.

Special Guest – Matt Jackson A participant from the Psilocybin for Treatment-Resistant Depression study. Matt, a self-confessed sceptic, sheds some light on what it is like to be given psilocybin in a clinical setting. To find out more about this study, please see the film Magic Medicine by visiting –

In part 1, we heard about how psychedelics can be used to help the sick, but what about the healthy?

Part 2 – Psychedelics for wellbeing

Wellbeing is becoming an increasingly studied element of everyday living. Those that maintain and take active steps to better their own wellbeing are happier people, who are more content with their own existence.

One way in which people are doing this is through the process of microdosing psychedelics. However, we have very little evidence of its effect. Professor David Nutt is joined by Dr David Erritzøe, who is conducting research in neurobiology and the ground-breaking trials into microdosing LSD, asking the all-important question, is microdosing real or placebo? To find out more about Dr Erritzøe’s & Dr Szigeti’s self-blinded microdosing trial please visit – the Self Blinding Microdose website

Furthermore, an individual’s connection with their surrounding natural environment is a strong indicator of that person’s overall wellbeing. Humankind’s connect to nature has dwindled over the years and a substantial cognitive shift is needed to save us from ecological destruction. Dr Sam Gandy joins Professor Nutt, his research focuses on the capacity of psychedelics to (re)connect people with nature, and the implications this has for individual wellbeing and the wellbeing of the biosphere, as this connection to nature is one of the strongest predictors of pro-environmental behaviour.  Please see Dr Gandy’s recently released paper with Imperial College London.

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